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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 11:27:01 GMT
Just going into London this morning I noticed that we moved off slowly from woodford station. Next thing I know we’re going into 21 road and I thought oh cr*p but then I realised everyone else was still on the train. Another train was waiting on the mainline WB and so we used 21 road to go around it and continue on. Just wondering what happened to cause this.
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 22, 2018 13:24:28 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Mar 22, 2018 15:03:02 GMT
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Post by jamesb on Mar 24, 2018 10:26:38 GMT
I once saw a train move from east of the eastbound platform (platform 3) just outside the station, across the points and into the westbound platform (platform 2). I can't quite recall where it went next - I assume into the sidings.
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Post by drainrat on Apr 14, 2018 8:40:18 GMT
I once saw a train move from east of the eastbound platform (platform 3) just outside the station, across the points and into the westbound platform (platform 2). I can't quite recall where it went next - I assume into the sidings.
Could've just gone west 
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Post by superteacher on Apr 14, 2018 8:43:49 GMT
I once saw a train move from east of the eastbound platform (platform 3) just outside the station, across the points and into the westbound platform (platform 2). I can't quite recall where it went next - I assume into the sidings.
Could've just gone west
That's quite an unusual move isn't it? I wonder if drainrat, aslefshrugged or hobbayne have ever performed it? |
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Post by drainrat on Apr 14, 2018 8:47:21 GMT
I've seen it done many times, never done myself though, and the train just picks up in service. If the train was going into the sidings from the EB track, then it would usually go in from South Woodford
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Post by superteacher on Apr 14, 2018 8:49:59 GMT
I've seen it done many times, never done myself though, and the train just picks up in service. If the train was going into the sidings from the EB track, then it would usually go in from South Woodford Wouldn't It be easier to just reverse the train off platform 3 via the wrong road starter? |
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Post by drainrat on Apr 14, 2018 9:01:11 GMT
I would say it depends how many trains in the area moving through. If there are trains between Sth Woodford-Woodford and Buckhurst Hill-Woodford, then it makes sense to move it east so it wouldn't hold up the service on both roads
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 14, 2018 9:15:26 GMT
I have never done the East to West mainline shunt at Woodford - not even when I was training - and I've never heard of anyone else doing it. I've not done the wrong road starter on Platform 3 either, usually if we're reversing east to west at Woodford they send us to the Bay Road/Platform 1
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Post by superteacher on Apr 14, 2018 9:18:02 GMT
I have never done the East to West mainline shunt at Woodford - not even when I was training - and I've never heard of anyone else doing it. I've not done the wrong road starter on Platform 3 either, usually if we're reversing east to west at Woodford they send us to the Bay Road/Platform 1 I think the reverse off platform 3 move gets done when there is engineering works east of Woodford, when they alternate between reversing in platform 1 and 3. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 14, 2018 9:27:12 GMT
I must have been off that weekend
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Post by superteacher on Apr 14, 2018 9:33:13 GMT
I must have been off that weekend Slightly OT, but is there a "holy grail" of unusual moves on the Central? The one I can think of is Debden WB platform to Epping via the loop. |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 14, 2018 10:06:21 GMT
No, never done that, its only ever used if we're unexpectedly shut down or if there's engineering work and in that case it would be Loughton drivers working the Debden-Epping shuttles.
Add Northolt East to West mainline shunt and Leytonstone East to West mainline shunt along the Epping line to the list of moves I've never actually done on a train
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Post by hobbayne on Apr 14, 2018 15:58:00 GMT
Only unusual move i have done is reverse of the Wb Outer Rail at Newbury Pk through the sidings and over to the Inner Rail.
That was when we had the serious incident at Leytonstone a couple of years ago.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 14, 2018 19:09:42 GMT
A few years ago there was engineering work from Leytonstone to Newbury Park and round to Hainault via Woodford. I ended up doing Newbury Park to Hainault shuttles on a Sunday afternoon, reversing off Platform 1 through the siding onto the inner road over and over and over....
It was almost as pointless and monotonous as working the Waterloo & City on a Saturday |
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Post by Chris M on Apr 14, 2018 20:33:10 GMT
At least there was more scenery
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Post by drainrat on Apr 18, 2018 13:55:01 GMT
I did a West to East at Queensway couple weeks back
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Post by aslefshrugged on Apr 18, 2018 15:26:46 GMT
I did a West to East at Queensway couple weeks back Yeah done that, once when the job was up the wall and once when we were having engineering works. What's unusual is its a 10kph limit so if you're in RM you have to watch your speed very carefully
I've thought of one that must be almost unknown, the West to East shunt at North Acton where you go off platform 1, over the points and the come back onto Platform 2. It used to a rusty rail move on a Leytonstone duty on Sunday morning but a lot of times Wood Lane didn't bother with it.
There's also the East to West shunt at Northolt off Platform 2 to Platform 1, haven't done that one either |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 18, 2018 16:16:58 GMT
White City middle platform to reversing siding?
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Post by drainrat on Apr 19, 2018 11:03:42 GMT
I did a West to East at Queensway couple weeks back Yeah done that, once when the job was up the wall and once when we were having engineering works. What's unusual is its a 10kph limit so if you're in RM you have to watch your speed very carefully
I've thought of one that must be almost unknown, the West to East shunt at North Acton where you go off platform 1, over the points and the come back onto Platform 2. It used to a rusty rail move on a Leytonstone duty on Sunday morning but a lot of times Wood Lane didn't bother with it.
There's also the East to West shunt at Northolt off Platform 2 to Platform 1, haven't done that one either
Was the first time I did it, when I started on Central the 92ts didn't fit through the gap at the crossover, so they had to widen it when they realised they were going to start using it again.
Have done all the other moves at some stage, was often done during the phase post Chancery Lane derailment and they wanted to move a lot of trains around out of place.
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Post by drainrat on Apr 19, 2018 11:04:10 GMT
White City middle platform to reversing siding?
Quite a common one, mind you, 'common' is all perspective I guess
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Post by superteacher on Apr 19, 2018 11:32:38 GMT
One more: Grange Hill inner rail platform to Hainault depot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 16:08:26 GMT
White City middle platform to reversing siding?
Quite a common one, mind you, 'common' is all perspective I guess
Platform 4 or even platform 1 to siding might be a bit more unusual though? |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 19, 2018 16:18:46 GMT
Quite a common one, mind you, 'common' is all perspective I guess
Platform 4 or even platform 1 to siding might be a bit more unusual though? Platform 4 to siding is fairly common. |
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Post by drainrat on May 8, 2018 11:49:10 GMT
Platform 4 or even platform 1 to siding might be a bit more unusual though? Platform 4 to siding is fairly common. yep, done it today  |
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Post by Antje on May 9, 2018 9:06:39 GMT
Regarding a train sitting on mainline, it is tempting to see a potential bottleneck that could be solved by building a 20 road to the west of the mainline, parallel to where the 21 road is.
With a 20 road, the returning Hainault branch train will not have to use the mainline when there is another train using the 21 road to get to the sidings and back.
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Post by drainrat on May 10, 2018 17:42:29 GMT
Regarding a train sitting on mainline, it is tempting to see a potential bottleneck that could be solved by building a 20 road to the west of the mainline, parallel to where the 21 road is. With a 20 road, the returning Hainault branch train will not have to use the mainline when there is another train using the 21 road to get to the sidings and back. I think the cost of building would far outweigh the potential bottleneck, with the delay being negligible. Never known this to happen in my time (well, the days I've worked). Why do you think it would be called '20 rd'? In keeping with the area more likely to be either 22 or 24 rd 🤔 |
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Post by drainrat on May 10, 2018 18:19:14 GMT
A few years ago there was engineering work from Leytonstone to Newbury Park and round to Hainault via Woodford. I ended up doing Newbury Park to Hainault shuttles on a Sunday afternoon, reversing off Platform 1 through the siding onto the inner road over and over and over....
It was almost as pointless and monotonous as working the Waterloo & City on a Saturday Ahem, I love working the drain on a Saturday 😸 |
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