Post by Colin on Apr 17, 2018 17:12:28 GMT
Once such rights are lost, IMHO they are very difficult to restore.
There's many rumours doing the rounds - so many that they can't all be true.
I don't have a copy of any procedures, policies or guidance documents to quote from and I'm no employment lawyer, but I do know discretion is built in and there's no automatic right of passage that allows anyone to achieve a 4th SPAD in a two year rolling period. It's certainly very possible to have 3 SPAD's and continue driving, but its definately not a garuanteed option (which some people seem to think it is).
A driver did three SPADs in eleven weeks, and was offered a job on Stations, rather than stay on T-Op and risk another SPAD, for which he may or may not 'normally' be sacked.
This is not agreed procedure, and so that driver's Union has raised the issue with Management.
Am I right so far? If so, what would the 'agreed procedure' have been?
(I have to ask, because I'm not party to Union/Management agreements in this industry).
Again there's many rumours and frankly none of us know for sure at what point who said what.
Unions don't have an automatic right to be present in the early stages following an incident - for all we know a manager may have made the suggestion before the driver even had their first post incident interview. If a well meaning manager was able to sort out a deal that assisted the employee, at whatever stage it was in the procedings, how is that a bad thing? Surely that's the sign of a good manager/employer?! This is why I said before that my own personal view, based upon the rumours I've heard coupled with knowing some of those involved at Acton, is that I think the union didn't like being side stepped.
Again rumours are rife about the build up to the SPAD's.
It is absolutely right that the individual's personal circumstances are not discussed further here - in any case I'm not sure what's true and what isn't but if you did believe all the rumours its a wonder they managed to be born at all.
I've not heard that one.
I'd be inclined to suggest you are very much barking up the wrong tree there.