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Post by d7666 on Feb 4, 2018 23:14:21 GMT
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Post by d7666 on Feb 4, 2018 23:15:17 GMT
hmmm.... not sure how that happened, I thought I was just pasting in the URL not the actual page.
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Post by d7666 on Feb 4, 2018 23:43:35 GMT
hmmm.... not sure how that happened, I thought I was just pasting in the URL not the actual page. -- Nick now somebody else seems to have edited everything out, url, the lot, so what is left is meaningless. i'd have thought a link to 710258 on trucks en route france + the accompanying text would have been useful info -- Nick |
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Post by superteacher on Feb 4, 2018 23:46:28 GMT
Can’t see what the problem is? Nobody has edited your post.
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Post by d7666 on Feb 4, 2018 23:53:39 GMT
Can’t see what the problem is? Nobody has edited your post. interesting i posted from one device with a url on that device it did not show me the url as expected but actual page being linked to embedded i then went to another device, this one, to figure out how to correct it and i see neither url or pagd so it looked to me like it had been moderated can you see the url or page with a truck convoy carrying 710s? -- Nick |
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Post by domh245 on Feb 5, 2018 0:01:59 GMT
As far as I can tell, the forum software will automatically embed content from certain websites (instagram, twitter, youtube, etc) and so just posting the link in plain text will result in situations as per the above. The URL can be 'preserved' by linking it from within text like this, so that clicking on the underlined text will send you to the URL, rather than leaving it for the software to interpret. Not sure about the failing to load at all on your device though. |
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Post by superteacher on Feb 5, 2018 0:03:16 GMT
Can’t see what the problem is? Nobody has edited your post. interesting i posted from one device with a url on that device it did not show me the url as expected but actual page being linked to embedded i then went to another device, this one, to figure out how to correct it and i see neither url or pagd so it looked to me like it had been moderated can you see the url or page with a truck convoy carrying 710s? -- Nick The pic but not the URL. Seems like the URL has become embedded. |
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Post by d7666 on Feb 5, 2018 0:04:22 GMT
ok this is weird. first device i can see what i originally posted second device nothing not a clue there is a url or anything else there. both androids and both settings same. never seen this before. restarted both too.
maybe delete these subsequent msgs as i doubt anyone else interested in my androids issues!
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Post by Chris M on Feb 5, 2018 3:28:39 GMT
Occasionally I see what appears to be a blank post, by @rincw1nd more than anyone else for some reason, but it is actually a link to twitter that has been embedded but has failed to display (I see this by clicking quote on the post, copying the url into a new tab and viewing it there). Usually the link will show in the thread after I've viewed it elsewhere (but not always).
I've just chalked it up to an interaction between the forum software and the aggressive script blocking I use, but if it's happening to others as well then it might be worth seeing if Proboards support are aware.
ps: I didn't have any issues with this post - it displayed the embedded tweet first time.
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Post by Deep Level on Feb 5, 2018 6:55:42 GMT
In reference to the original post, why is the train heading to France?
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 5, 2018 7:40:35 GMT
Can’t see what the problem is? Nobody has edited your post. .....so it looked to me like it had been moderated...... |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 5, 2018 7:42:06 GMT
In reference to the original post, why is the train heading to France? Maybe it's for a display somewhere. Bombarier sent an S Stock to Germany (I think it was) years ago for similar reasons. |
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Post by alpinejohn on Feb 5, 2018 8:03:58 GMT
If however they were just passing through France, then my guess is that they are actually heading for display at the 6th International Rail Summit in Prague - 21-23 February. Other manufacturers have presented units at past events and indeed TFL, and virtually all major European rail operators have sent participants. I guess Bombardier are keen to display their latest kit.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 5, 2018 8:59:49 GMT
How does it get the number 258? Only 45 units are on order, of which fourteen are of the /2 subclass.
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Post by domh245 on Feb 5, 2018 9:13:52 GMT
In the comments on that Instagram link, someone is saying that it was sent for high speed testing and software testing, as there is no where available in the UK at the moment (Presumably old dalby is full of class 345s) - although the display purposes suggestion is a good possibility.
As for the numbering, as I understand it 710101-710131 are the Liverpool Street units, and there is a block reserved for future options (710132-710155) before picking up the DC/GOBLIN units at 710256 onwards
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Post by d7666 on Feb 5, 2018 10:15:52 GMT
One other UK EMU type (not London, so off topic) going overseas for high speed testing is the Hitachi 385s where two sets went to Germany and were dragged around the DB network. They are back in UK now.
OK, 385s are off topic for here, but I mention it as it set a precedent, and maybe 710s are following suite?
Also, apparently the destination is Lille, which is not far from Crespin, which is where Bombardiers French head rolling stock facility is. May or may not be a connection if that's where they are doing this high speed testing?
The international conference I had not heard of but equally valid suggestion.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 5, 2018 10:38:33 GMT
I heard it was for climate chamber testing in Vienna.
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Post by domh245 on Feb 5, 2018 10:41:25 GMT
I would think that the CEF* near Valenciennes would be a more likely destination for testing. The Crespin site appears to only have a short electrified spur, similar to Derby, which I don't think would be what they are looking for. It isn't too far away from Crespin (and Lille) either *Centre d’Essais Ferroviaire |
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 5, 2018 11:10:36 GMT
One other UK EMU type (not London, so off topic) going overseas for high speed testing is the Hitachi 385s where two sets went to Germany and were dragged around the DB network. They are back in UK now. OK, 385s are off topic for here, but I mention it as it set a precedent, and maybe 710s are following suite? Also, apparently the destination is Lille, which is not far from Crespin, which is where Bombardiers French head rolling stock facility is. May or may not be a connection if that's where they are doing this high speed testing? The international conference I had not heard of but equally valid suggestion. -- Nick I always find it ironic that the country that invented the railway should transport rolling stock by road. Yes, I know it's probably a lot cheaper and if it wasn't it would probably be a problem diagramming it, but still hey ho the tunnel is used for........  |
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Post by d7666 on Feb 5, 2018 12:43:46 GMT
AFAIK there is no reason to send a 710 to Wien Aresenal. That test is generic by type not class by class. 710s are Aventras, 345s are Aventras, and a 345 has already been AIUI, so it' been covered.
I can't think of a single previous example where a member of a class has been to Wien where the same model / generic type but different class has already been.
I might be wrong but that's how I've seen this before.
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Post by d7666 on Feb 5, 2018 12:46:59 GMT
One other UK EMU type (not London, so off topic) going overseas for high speed testing is the Hitachi 385s where two sets went to Germany and were dragged around the DB network. They are back in UK now. OK, 385s are off topic for here, but I mention it as it set a precedent, and maybe 710s are following suite? Also, apparently the destination is Lille, which is not far from Crespin, which is where Bombardiers French head rolling stock facility is. May or may not be a connection if that's where they are doing this high speed testing? The international conference I had not heard of but equally valid suggestion. -- Nick I always find it ironic that the country that invented the railway should transport rolling stock by road. Yes, I know it's probably a lot cheaper and if it wasn't it would probably be a problem diagramming it, but still hey ho the tunnel is used for........ Well at least they aren't doing the ultimate lunacy of putting a train on a truck, then putting that truck on a train (a Eurotunnel truck shuttle). OK thats probably pushing topic discussion maybe too drifting too far. -- Nick |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 5, 2018 15:18:59 GMT
Well at least they aren't doing the ultimate lunacy of putting a train on a truck, then putting that truck on a train (a Eurotunnel truck shuttle). A train on a lorry - even a British loading gauge train - is usually an "outsize load" (orange lights, maybe a police escort, etc) so it probably wouldn't fit on a Eurotunnel lorry shuttle |
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Post by Chris M on Feb 5, 2018 15:55:24 GMT
There is a Facebook group called "UK Trains on Trucks" which shares photos of British trains on lorries - populated as much by heavy lorry enthusiasts as rail enthusiasts, including a couple of heavy haulage drivers. From those photos, they're almost all oversize loads but escorts are not normally provided by the police these days. Exceptions do happen though, such as trams to Thereaphia Lane depot in Croydon where they have to run on the wrong side of the road of a way as the long loads are unable to negotiate a particularly tight roundabout in the correct direction.
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Post by d7666 on Feb 5, 2018 17:22:11 GMT
Well at least they aren't doing the ultimate lunacy of putting a train on a truck, then putting that truck on a train (a Eurotunnel truck shuttle). A train on a lorry - even a British loading gauge train - is usually an "outsize load" (orange lights, maybe a police escort, etc) so it probably wouldn't fit on a Eurotunnel lorry shuttle I was being facetious. -- Nick |
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 5, 2018 17:48:02 GMT
A train on a lorry - even a British loading gauge train - is usually an "outsize load" (orange lights, maybe a police escort, etc) so it probably wouldn't fit on a Eurotunnel lorry shuttle I was being facetious. -- Nick A bit like that add on the box with a man on a scooter, on top of a van, on top of a flatbed,all towed by a man on roller skates  |
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Post by snoggle on Feb 5, 2018 21:58:10 GMT
In reference to the original post, why is the train heading to France? As others have said it is for testing purposes. This is because there is no spare capacity in the UK. Based on remarks elsewhere the view seems to be that testing of the CBTC equipped Class 345 for Crossrail is taking priority. Although the CBTC equipped 345 is due in London by mid Feb for testing on the Abbey Wood branch from late Feb I would not be astonished if a second or even third CBTC equipped 345 is immediately sent to Old Dalby to continue testing of the system and any subsequent software modifications. I do wonder if TfL is being presented with some uncomfortable choices over the supply of class 345 and class 710 trains. Crossrail clearly has the priority and is probably eating up resources at Bombardier and elsewhere. I'm not holding my breath for any 710s appearing in NE London for the next few months. |
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Post by countryman on Feb 6, 2018 9:55:01 GMT
I was being facetious. -- Nick A bit like that add on the box with a man on a scooter, on top of a van, on top of a flatbed,all towed by a man on roller skates And notice the steam coming from the front of the VW pickup, which is actually air cooled with a rear engine! |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 6, 2018 12:25:08 GMT
A bit like that add on the box with a man on a scooter, on top of a van, on top of a flatbed,all towed by a man on roller skates And notice the steam coming from the front of the VW pickup, which is actually air cooled with a rear engine! Since 1991 they have been water-cooled, with a front-mounted radiator (although the engine was still at the back). c1.staticflickr.com/4/3914/14512031524_db151948a2_b.jpgMany owners prefer to disguise the radiator by hiding it behind the spare wheel, although this reduces the effectiveness of the radiator and, at the same time, causes softening of the tyre! i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/70/df/5e70df4c93f129a0e51fcca70b8223be.jpgHowever, all the pickup versions were built in Germany, and all the water-cooled versions in Mexico, so there are no water-cooled pickup variants unless someone has customised one. |
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Post by humbug on Feb 6, 2018 15:38:29 GMT
In reference to the original post, why is the train heading to France? As others have said it is for testing purposes. This is because there is no spare capacity in the UK. For the DTUP project, there is a cunning plan to alleviate this: traintesting.gva.co.uk/Background.aspx |
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