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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 29, 2017 17:35:43 GMT
Today marked the start of station upgrade works for Knightsbridge station that will bring step free access, and new or relocated entrances. Exits 3/4 on Sloane Street have now closed and will be converted to retail units by the property owner who own the space above the station whom TfL secured a commercial deal with enabling the restoration of the buildings facades working in tandem with the upgrade works. Exits 3/4 will be moved to a more central position roughly at 15 Brompton Road on the junction with Knightsbridge. The relocated entrance is due to open to the public in 2019. In 2020 a new entrance will open situated at the rear side of the building on Hoopers Court providing two lifts making Knightsbridge the 72nd step free station on the network and part of a precious few that are inside the boundary of the Circle line joining Green Park, Tottenham Court Road and Bond Street. This new entrance is a stone's throw away from the original Leslie Green facade still now basking in it's restored Oxblood red and closed in the 1930's when escalators were fitted. Also closed in the 1930's were various interconnecting passageways that have been incorporated into the upgrade plan and thus will open to the public once again after a lapse of roughly 90 years. Images of the planned new entrances can be found here. |
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Post by Chris M on Nov 29, 2017 20:37:42 GMT
Also closed in the 1930's were various interconnecting passageways that have been incorporated into the upgrade plan and thus will open to the public once again after a lapse of roughly 90 years. Is that going to be a record for the longest interval between closure and reopening? |
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 30, 2017 15:46:55 GMT
Also closed in the 1930's were various interconnecting passageways that have been incorporated into the upgrade plan and thus will open to the public once again after a lapse of roughly 90 years. Is that going to be a record for the longest interval between closure and reopening? It certainly is a good contender, I guess it depends on the definition of a closed part of a station being reopened either in unchanged form or just being cut through in the process of new works such as the City and South London Railways (C&SLRs) short lived branch to King William street the tunnels of which have been encroached by the Jubilee line extension at London Bridge and will be further by upgrade works for the Waterloo & City line and realignment of the SB Northern line at Bank/Monument. Im not sure how the works at Bank/Monument have affect the aforementioned C&SLR tunnel, but if counted in the same respect then by the time works are due to have finished it would have been close to 122 years since they last saw active use. |
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Post by rapidtransitman on Nov 30, 2017 16:31:37 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Dec 2, 2017 22:33:36 GMT
I would rather that the closure of entrance 3 / 4 had been delayed until the replacements were ready to open. The station is busy enough and really cant manage with just the one entrance.
Simon
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Post by rsdworker on Dec 3, 2017 2:18:36 GMT
I would rather that the closure of entrance 3 / 4 had been delayed until the replacements were ready to open. The station is busy enough and really cant manage with just the one entrance. Simon quote from press release there is two more exits from main entrance and also the other end ticket hall has other exit so its should be enough to handle traffic in and out but for step free access i am confused - so there should be 3rd lift between platform and upper passageway - the press release says two 17 person lifts - so i think its refers to main original lifts between street and upper passageway - i am not sure fully i wished there was proper station plans showing changes |
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Post by spsmiler on Dec 4, 2017 17:17:38 GMT
Thanks for the quote from the press release, I must have missed that.
Simon
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 11, 2022 15:13:12 GMT
The new stepped pedestrian entrance on Brompton Road opened yesterday 10 October.
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Post by miff on Oct 12, 2022 7:32:18 GMT
Is that going to be a record for the longest interval between closure and reopening? It certainly is a good contender, I guess it depends on the definition of a closed part of a station being reopened either in unchanged form or just being cut through in the process of new works such as the City and South London Railways (C&SLRs) short lived branch to King William street the tunnels of which have been encroached by the Jubilee line extension at London Bridge and will be further by upgrade works for the Waterloo & City line and realignment of the SB Northern line at Bank/Monument. Im not sure how the works at Bank/Monument have affect the aforementioned C&SLR tunnel, but if counted in the same respect then by the time works are due to have finished it would have been close to 122 years since they last saw active use. I think what you’re describing is obliteration, not reopening or reuse. |
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Post by theblackferret on Oct 12, 2022 9:41:54 GMT
The original CSLR station at King William Street was closed in 1900, together with (I think) 1,300-1,400 yards of track leading off to it after Borough.
So that lot was never re-bored to the now-standard Tube Tunnel width in 1921-3 along with the rest of the CSLR and would therefore presumably present difficulty in being reused or integrated into a new Tube line or extension. Pity-would have been ideal as a starting point for a heritage Tube line.
On Knightsbridge's 'new' passenger tunnels-great idea & I suspect these would need less structural safety-checking than the CSLR tunnels.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 12, 2022 12:05:21 GMT
The new stepped pedestrian entrance on Brompton Road opened yesterday 10 October. So the accessible entrance is still to come? |
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Post by jimbo on Oct 12, 2022 18:55:42 GMT
There has been talk from time to time of re-equipping former lift shafts here and there. Is this the first to actually happen? Of course, original lifts to platform level were rare so, as in this case, still need a new lift shaft to the platforms.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 14, 2022 13:16:30 GMT
There has been talk from time to time of re-equipping former lift shafts here and there. Is this the first to actually happen? Of course, original lifts to platform level were rare so, as in this case, still need a new lift shaft to the platforms. Two other ideas... dig existing shafts deeper or replace steps with inclined lifts. The latter (I suppose) will only be viable where the passageway is otherwise no longer used. |
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Post by jimbo on Oct 14, 2022 19:45:25 GMT
There has been talk from time to time of re-equipping former lift shafts here and there. Is this the first to actually happen? Of course, original lifts to platform level were rare so, as in this case, still need a new lift shaft to the platforms. Two other ideas... dig existing shafts deeper or replace steps with inclined lifts. The latter (I suppose) will only be viable where the passageway is otherwise no longer used. Top stations are rarely above the platforms, so the lifts land above running tunnel level, and then passages link across to the line with steps to centre platform or to outside platforms. Also, the running lines were generally kept within the streets above, so could not be spread out to allow room for lifts to land at that level. So, deepening an existing lift shaft will rarely help achieve step-free access. |
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Post by jimbo on Jul 14, 2023 7:55:11 GMT
Programmes and Investment Committee meeting 19 July 2023 papers: (Emphasis added) link p.5 / 17 Since Queen Victoria died 22 January 1901, but construction of the line began in July 1902 at Knightsbridge, and the station opened on 15 December 1906, surely it was original Edwardian tunnel sections! In contrast, construction of Crossrail began in 2009, with line opening in 2022, showing a century of 'progress'! |
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