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Post by bringbackcrouchhil on Nov 15, 2017 20:44:33 GMT
Hi,
When is the double tracking around Bow Road actually going to happen? How long will the line be closed for? And how are they going to fit it in, I just can’t see the space when I get that track...
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Post by alholmes on Nov 16, 2017 17:44:08 GMT
There are no plans to double track between Bow Curch and Pudding Mill Lane - as you say, insufficient space. The intention is to double track from PML to Stratford, although I suspect it’s been hit by funding constraints.
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Post by Deep Level on Nov 16, 2017 18:52:54 GMT
Provision for double tracking was built into the new tracks at Pudding Mill Lane but currently there aren't any actual plans to do so.
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Post by jpd888 on Nov 21, 2017 14:44:14 GMT
Is there any need to double-track this section yet? Once new, longer trains are available, a three-car train formed of 2007 stock at the current frequency of four minutes would probably make a significant difference.
Also, are there any figures on whether Crossrail will increase or decrease demand on the DLR?
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Post by Chris M on Nov 21, 2017 18:12:09 GMT
Also, are there any figures on whether Crossrail will increase or decrease demand on the DLR? I imagine that the answer will be both, depending what route you are talking about. My guess is that Stratford-Canary Wharf will see little significant change for a few reasons: - Stratford to Canary Wharf will not be a direct journey on Crossrail, so people will continue to use the JLE and DLR
- The interchange at Canary Wharf is very poor, so it's unlikely people will change to using that for through journeys (those in the know are possibly as likely to head for Poplar as Canary Wharf DLR I suspect)
- There are no additional stations east of Stratford, so the demand isn't likely to significantly change
- The only significant destination between Canary Wharf and Stratford on the DLR is the Olympic Park, which is at least equally well served by Stratford, and both ends of the route have direct Crossrail services from the west so there isn't a need for a DLR journey in most cases - although if one branch of Crossrail is suspended the DLR and JLE between them will likely get very busy
The interchange at Shadwell could become less busy with people using Crossrail and changing at Whitechapel instead. There could be a significant contra-peak flow between Canning Town and Custom House. |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 30, 2017 11:31:46 GMT
Is there any need to double-track this section yet? Once new, longer trains are available, a three-car train formed of 2007 stock at the current frequency of four minutes would probably make a significant difference. Also, are there any figures on whether Crossrail will increase or decrease demand on the DLR? Yes there are figures in the TfL Business Plan. TfL have been forecasting a drop in demand on the DLR for 2-3 years after Crossrail opens through to Abbey Wood. It's actually the Woolwich branch where they are expecting the main drop but obviously other parts of the network may also see some decline. It is worth saying that TfL have taken a rather more pessimistic view about demand levels in the latest plan than they did this time last year. It's evident that the economy is softening, demand is falling and this is likely to continue as jobs move away from London to elsewhere in Europe as a result of the "B word". Last year's numbers were several million higher than those below and the drop in demand was less pronounced. The latest business plan numbers (DLR Annual pass jnys in millions) are as follows 2018/19 124 2019/20 117 2020/21 112 2021/22 114 2022/23 120 Unfortunately the planned scheduled kilometrage numbers have not been published so I've had to resort to FOI to get them. They were published last year. (sigh!) |
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Post by jpd888 on Dec 11, 2017 3:09:51 GMT
Thank you both.
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