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Post by patrickb on Dec 15, 2017 4:23:26 GMT
What scratches my head, is the lack of interest to preserve an entire set of what is a fairly unique piece of Heritage. Yes, repeatedly, the argument has been made that neither LU or LTM have expressed interest in preserving a working car set. It shocks me to believe however that not even at least 1 other DM and two T's could be donated to private owners.
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Post by a60 on Dec 15, 2017 7:27:47 GMT
The excuse given on another forum is that LUL do not wish to sell to private owners due to asbestos contamination. Avoiding litigation and all that lark.
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Post by DistrictSOM on Dec 15, 2017 7:30:34 GMT
I understand it's all over, that the RAT went out with a premature bang. One way trip to Booth's for 5110 and 5234? I see from Flickr that 5113 is still in existence as of a few days ago, albeit in Rotherham. Anyone know of when the units will leave LU metals? I saw a report of a flashed over Motor but would that cause it to be scrapped? |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Dec 15, 2017 7:37:23 GMT
I understand it's all over, that the RAT went out with a premature bang. One way trip to Booth's for 5110 and 5234? I see from Flickr that 5113 is still in existence as of a few days ago, albeit in Rotherham. Anyone know of when the units will leave LU metals? I saw a report of a flashed over Motor but would that cause it to be scrapped? I assume that would depend on the cost of repair and whether it was deemed value for money. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 15, 2017 7:55:11 GMT
I saw a report of a flashed over Motor but would that cause it to be scrapped? Just 6 days left on its ‘official’ end date of 21st December. |
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Post by a60 on Dec 15, 2017 8:00:44 GMT
Well, as I understand it, there are no plans to preserve anything of them apart from car 5034. The leaf fall season ends soon if I’m not much mistaken, and the D78 RAT stands ready to take over from next year.
So I presume that it is all over for the A60’s now, save for a final trip to Northwood or Acton.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 15, 2017 8:23:09 GMT
So I presume that it is all over for the A60’s now, save for a final trip to Northwood or Acton. Likely to be Ealing Common early in the New Year. It’s a shame that car 6036 couldn’t be paired with 5034 in the Museum Depot in its current un-refurbished condition, without the Sandite hoppers |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Dec 15, 2017 8:42:42 GMT
Well, as I understand it, there are no plans to preserve anything of them apart from car 5034. The leaf fall season ends soon if I’m not much mistaken, and the D78 RAT stands ready to take over from next year. So I presume that it is all over for the A60’s now, save for a final trip to Northwood or Acton.  |
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Post by allan60 on Dec 15, 2017 13:51:00 GMT
Do you think there is any hope of persuading them to keep one for heritage runs? It's such a shame to let a piece of history be destroyed after more than 55 years 😥
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Dec 15, 2017 14:11:05 GMT
Do you think there is any hope of persuading them to keep one for heritage runs? It's such a shame to let a piece of history be destroyed after more than 55 years 😥 I may be wrong here but once the current SSR becomes fully automatic train operation like the Northern, Jubilee, Central and Victoria lines are it will become very difficult to run trains that don't have the correct equipment to read the track signals. That would mean the A60 was restricted to some areas of the non automatic Piccadilly Line where it currently is in gauge but eventually, even this will disappear. I suppose the same is true of the other heritage stock. At least you have a museum piece to visit at Acton from time to time. |
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Post by luacton on Dec 15, 2017 15:01:06 GMT
I believe ALL A stock cars (except the one kept in the museum) were sold to the scrap dealer. This included the the sandite units.
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Post by miff on Dec 15, 2017 15:23:15 GMT
Is the DRAT ready to take over?
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Post by domh245 on Dec 15, 2017 16:44:16 GMT
Is the DRAT ready to take over? The District Line doesn't have a RAT  But you would hope that the D-Stock RAT will be ready within 9 months. |
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Post by luacton on Dec 15, 2017 18:30:34 GMT
Is the DRAT ready to take over? The District Line doesn't have a RAT But you would hope that the D-Stock RAT will be ready within 9 months. Both are/were ready. The first one was sent out once finished, and was used for a few training runs. It required some mods to be done, so has now returned back to TMU (Train modification unit) as the second one is complete and has gone to Neasden as standby. Now the A stock is out of the question, this is the one that will be used for the rest of the season. The reason the D78s have not been used much is that there are not many people trained on it. Finding the time to train drivers was hard coming up to sandite season. |
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Post by Ben on Dec 15, 2017 19:59:13 GMT
Convinced asbestos is a red herring, thought it was removed either at the refurb or before. Piers Connor would be the one to ask.
Its a very convenient excuse, asbestos contamination. No doubt many people would be pleased to see evidence to back up potentially dangerous contamination, worse than that of other vehicles from the mainline undergoing restoration in preservation.
Bottom line is you don't own heritage, you look after it for the next generation. WRT rolling stock, TfL doesnt seem to have a good record. The number of important/special/heritage vehicles scrapped since 2000 is rather shameful given other international metros willingness to capitalise on vehicle preservation for PR. I wish they'd remember that they'd make more money in the future from heritage runs than a stuffed exhibit in a museum, not to mention employee pride.
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