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Post by spsmiler on Sept 4, 2017 21:52:10 GMT
I filmed the Class 444 train in the new livery passing through Wimbledon Park station, on its way to Waterloo.
I also filmed a Class 450 passing through, plus the District Line S7 that I arrived on.
Enjoy!
Simon
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Post by superteacher on Sept 5, 2017 7:14:48 GMT
Will they have three separate liveriies like SWT?
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Post by antharro on Sept 5, 2017 23:00:58 GMT
Rumour on the street says no. Which if true seems like a backward step.
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Sept 6, 2017 10:27:22 GMT
Looks a bit drab to me.
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 6, 2017 11:21:02 GMT
Rumour on the street says no. Which if true seems like a backward step. What was the intention behind having three different liveries? If a red train appeared would you decide not to catch it because you wanted a blue one? |
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Post by brigham on Sept 6, 2017 11:38:45 GMT
Looks good, but they STILL have to have the diagonals.
Tyneside Metro had three different colour versions of the livery at one time. The ends and cab sides were all yellow (with diagonal, of course), but you had a choice of red, blue or green for the carriage sides.
It didn't correspond to where you were going, like in Glasgow; it was just a matter of choice.
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Post by superteacher on Sept 6, 2017 12:30:08 GMT
Rumour on the street says no. Which if true seems like a backward step. What was the intention behind having three different liveries? If a red train appeared would you decide not to catch it because you wanted a blue one? It think it was red for short distance services, blue for middle and white for long. |
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 6, 2017 12:47:27 GMT
Rumour on the street says no. Which if true seems like a backward step. What was the intention behind having three different liveries? If a red train appeared would you decide not to catch it because you wanted a blue one? Probably four when the vinyl starts to peels off  |
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Post by Chris M on Sept 6, 2017 13:47:58 GMT
What was the intention behind having three different liveries? If a red train appeared would you decide not to catch it because you wanted a blue one? It think it was red for short distance services, blue for middle and white for long. That was the intention yes. As someone on a train to Barnes I was on once put it: red trains don't have toilets, blue trains do, white trains probably do but they are for exotic places so I don't get them. |
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Post by superteacher on Sept 6, 2017 13:49:58 GMT
It think it was red for short distance services, blue for middle and white for long. That was the intention yes. As someone on a train to Barnes I was on once put it: red trains don't have toilets, blue trains do, white trains probably do but they are for exotic places so I don't get them. Red had no air con either! |
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Post by crusty54 on Sept 6, 2017 13:56:47 GMT
That was the intention yes. As someone on a train to Barnes I was on once put it: red trains don't have toilets, blue trains do, white trains probably do but they are for exotic places so I don't get them. Red had no air con either! But the new trains will. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 6, 2017 14:48:57 GMT
It think it was red for short distance services, blue for middle and white for long. It was to guide staff as to how to treat the contents: White - clients to be cossetted Blue - customers to be humoured Red - cash cows to be herded |
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Post by Ben on Sept 6, 2017 15:52:42 GMT
Permit me to be tin-foil hat cynical for a minute? Whereas differentiation of services into sub brands of urban, suburban, and long distance is potentially a useful thing for passenger guidance, by creating three tangible identities you run the risk that its psychologically easier to separate them out. Which in turn would make it easier for another operator to say 'we should take over control of the red train routes because they run entirely within our area'. That would be a terrifying thing to allow, or so the transport minister might consider.
Out of interest, what were the last house colours of the LSWR before the grouping put green on everything?
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Post by John Tuthill on Sept 6, 2017 16:49:08 GMT
Permit me to be tin-foil hat cynical for a minute? Whereas differentiation of services into sub brands of urban, suburban, and long distance is potentially a useful thing for passenger guidance, by creating three tangible identities you run the risk that its psychologically easier to separate them out. Which in turn would make it easier for another operator to say 'we should take over control of the red train routes because they run entirely within our area'. That would be a terrifying thing to allow, or so the transport minister might consider. Out of interest, what were the last house colours of the LSWR before the grouping put green on everything? I've seen photos of old LSWR in a chocolate and cream scheme similar to 'Pullman' carriages. |
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Post by tjw on Sept 6, 2017 17:17:50 GMT
The L&SWR had a livery of Salmon (pink) above waist and Chocolate below. This livery was not used on the new electric trains or the new Ironclad stock, they used from new the Olive green with yellow and black lining later used by the SR.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 6, 2017 17:23:03 GMT
The Bluebell Railway and the NRM both have examples of LSWR carriages in a livery of salmon pink above, and dark brown below. However I believe the LSWR electric units were green from the outset.
SWT's first livery was a variation on the Network South East colours, with an extra orange stripe. This was applied to all inherited stock, and slam door stock kept it until withdrawal. The first units in the new scheme were the 458s, which were white (although their outer suburban use would mean they would be anomalous when the three liveries were normalised)
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Post by superteacher on Sept 6, 2017 17:34:22 GMT
It think it was red for short distance services, blue for middle and white for long. It was to guide staff as to how to treat the contents: White - clients to be cossetted Blue - customers to be humoured Red - cash cows to be herded Love it NF! |
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Post by 35b on Sept 8, 2017 14:30:08 GMT
It think it was red for short distance services, blue for middle and white for long. It was to guide staff as to how to treat the contents: White - clients to be cossetted Blue - customers to be humoured Red - cash cows to be herded Never noticed the cosseting on the white ones |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 8, 2017 14:43:30 GMT
It was to guide staff as to how to treat the contents: White - clients to be cossetted Blue - customers to be humoured Red - cash cows to be herded Never noticed the cosseting on the white ones Everything's relative, of course - but I noticed on the "Tweet the manager" sessions, that the longer distance travellers got replies like "we're already looking at improving the speed of your wifi" whilst the suburbanites tended to address more fundamental issues like cancelled trains, and were more likely to get the "shut up and put up" treatment. Nothing I have seen since SWR took over suggests that anything has really changed - up to and including dumping a trainload of passengers two stops short of the main line this morning. |
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