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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 11:47:38 GMT
What is the oldest complete set or simply individual cars of old stock still in use on the Underground?
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 17, 2017 12:25:58 GMT
What is the oldest complete set or simply individual cars of old stock still in use on the Underground? Without delving into my library, I'd say off the top of my head a shunter or ballast wagon at one of the depots or Acton? |
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Post by Chris W on Jan 17, 2017 14:08:34 GMT
What is the oldest complete set or simply individual cars of old stock still in use on the Underground? If my memory serves me right, the oldest passenger stock in regular service will be a handful of 67 Tube Stock cars that work with 72TS on the Bakerloo... I suspect a few members here will be able to identify the numbers of these 67TS cars and the 72 TS they operate with.
There are a few electric battery locos, the oldest of which are Metro Cammell's from 1964
Otherwise the LT Museum's 4-car 38TS unit must be amongst the oldest, alongside occasionally used Sarah Siddons (1923 electric loco), steam loco No. 1 dating back to 1896 and carriage 353 (1892)
Any more for any more 
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Post by vato on Jan 17, 2017 14:40:11 GMT
wouldn't the central line RAT (62 stock?) come close? or the TRT 60 stock?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 14:56:46 GMT
Which I believe include a 1938 stock trailer |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jan 17, 2017 15:04:29 GMT
Which I believe include a 1938 stock trailer It's a 73TS trailer on the TRT. The 38TS trailer featured in the 60TS Shuttle units Hainault/Woodford and Epping/Ongar after the Standard stock trailers previouslty used were scrapped. Picture from bowroaduk's Flickr:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 15:11:21 GMT
Which I believe include a 1938 stock trailer It's a 73TS trailer on the TRT. The 38TS trailer featured in the 60TS Shuttle units Hainault/Woodford and Epping/Ongar after the Standard stock trailers previouslty used were scrapped. Picture from bowroaduk's Flickr: Whoops! Of course you're right  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 16:50:36 GMT
Which I believe include a 1938 stock trailer It's a 73TS trailer on the TRT. The 38TS trailer featured in the 60TS Shuttle units Hainault/Woodford and Epping/Ongar after the Standard stock trailers previouslty used were scrapped. Picture from bowroaduk's Flickr: Wow! I don't think I've ever seen that stock before. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 16:54:23 GMT
What is the oldest complete set or simply individual cars of old stock still in use on the Underground? a shunter at one of the depots or Acton? Electric or diesel? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 17:10:54 GMT
a shunter at one of the depots or Acton? Electric or diesel? LU doesn't have any locos built solely for shunting, but marshalling of engineer's trains at Ruislip can be performed by either battery locomotives (as mentioned upthread the oldest are 1964 vintage) or Schöma diesels which date from the 1990s. Also occasionally seen at Ruislip or Neasden Depots (or somewhere in between) are ex-British Rail Class 20 diesel locos, some of which date from the late 1950s. These are used for delivery or despatch of S Stock units returning to/from their manufacturer or the Old Dalby test facility. |
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Post by North End on Jan 17, 2017 17:25:29 GMT
What is the oldest complete set or simply individual cars of old stock still in use on the Underground? If my memory serves me right, the oldest passenger stock in regular service will be a handful of 67 Tube Stock cars that work with 72TS on the Bakerloo... I suspect a few members here will be able to identify the numbers of these 67TS cars and the 72 TS they operate with.
There are a few electric battery locos, the oldest of which are Metro Cammell's from 1964
Otherwise the LT Museum's 4-car 38TS unit must be amongst the oldest, alongside occasionally used Sarah Siddons (1923 electric loco), steam loco No. 1 dating back to 1896 and carriage 353 (1892)
Any more for any more
Not quite so, all the 67 stock was withdrawn at the time of the Victoria Line fleet replacement. There are, however, 19 cars of 1972Mk1 stock still running on the Bakerloo Line. I'd suggest these are the oldest cars running in passenger service. As regards non-passenger stock, there's a 1959 stock car running in one of the Central Line's sandite trains, which may be a contender. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 19:38:00 GMT
Not unless you count the units at Acton Works
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 20:34:09 GMT
The Bakerloo will hold the record for the oldest vintage trains in regular passenger service now, the 1972 cars will see their 50th birthday easily, outlasting the 1938 tube cars, which ran from 1938 until 1988 in normal passenger service.
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Post by kesmet on Jan 18, 2017 8:28:56 GMT
The Bakerloo probably holds that record in London, but 1938 stock still works on the Isle of Wight "Island Line". Which answers the thread title as well, although not the more specific question in the first post (the Island Line can't really be considered as being on the Underground...).
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Post by silenthunter on Feb 4, 2017 12:09:01 GMT
Which I believe include a 1938 stock trailer It's a 73TS trailer on the TRT. The 38TS trailer featured in the 60TS Shuttle units Hainault/Woodford and Epping/Ongar after the Standard stock trailers previouslty used were scrapped. Picture from bowroaduk's Flickr: What an adorable little train! What does TRT stand for anyway? |
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Post by MoreToJack on Feb 4, 2017 12:29:37 GMT
Track Recording Train.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 4, 2017 14:24:55 GMT
It's a 73TS trailer on the TRT. The 38TS trailer featured in the 60TS Shuttle units Hainault/Woodford and Epping/Ongar after the Standard stock trailers previouslty used were scrapped. Picture from bowroaduk's Flickr: What an adorable little train! What does TRT stand for anyway? Track Recording Train. Apologies, I should have said that in the first place! 😎 |
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Post by silverfoxcc on Feb 5, 2017 17:00:07 GMT
Just as an aside, what was
1) the oldest ever stock either a)self powered b)hauled
2)(i) if 1 is a) then what was b)
(ii) if 1 was b) what was a)
Apologies if it reads like a GCE maths question
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 5, 2017 17:53:02 GMT
Just as an aside, what was 1) the oldest ever stock either a)self powered b)hauled 2)(i) if 1 is a) then what was b) (ii) if 1 was b) what was a) Apologies if it reads like a GCE maths question As has been said before it must be the 38s on the IOW. It is after all 'tube stock' |
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