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Post by A60stock on Nov 24, 2016 19:58:53 GMT
With the 365s now not going to the gwml, does anyone know what the future use of these units will be once the class 700s have completely taken over?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 20:36:00 GMT
Our lot (GTRGN) are keeping 19( i think) of the 365s for GN services. As to where the rest are off to I cant really say as I dont know!
Where im based on the GN we will have according to service predictions 365,387 and 700s. We already have a few 387 diagrams but this will become many more a the 317s and 321s are cascaded elsewhere. Personally I'll miss working on 313s.
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Post by A60stock on Nov 24, 2016 22:15:01 GMT
Thanks,
Is there any reason for replacing the 365s (the ones going elsewhere) with electrostars? I am sure the 365s are not that old at all?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 24, 2016 22:42:18 GMT
The 365s were the last trains built for British Rail, so are getting on for 25 years old. The 317s are about ten years older and the 313s are now over 40.
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Post by crusty54 on Nov 25, 2016 4:18:59 GMT
Thanks, Is there any reason for replacing the 365s (the ones going elsewhere) with electrostars? I am sure the 365s are not that old at all? Maximum speed - new units can run faster. |
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Post by melikepie on Nov 25, 2016 8:54:30 GMT
But the 365s can run at 100mph. Besides they are not as dingy as the 317s. I don't see the reason they need to be replaced. And I would miss them, growing up on them.
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Post by crusty54 on Nov 25, 2016 9:02:15 GMT
But the 365s can run at 100mph. Besides they are not as dingy as the 317s. I don't see the reason they need to be replaced. And I would miss them, growing up on them. Class 387 maximum speed is 110mph - important on the routes concerned. |
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Post by melikepie on Nov 25, 2016 9:05:57 GMT
I can see why the 317s and 321s need to go. I suppose a lot of it boils down to the Digswell viaduct
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 25, 2016 10:10:41 GMT
I can see why the 317s and 321s need to go. I suppose a lot of it boils down to the Digswell viaduct With electric units already built for electrification projects that have now been shelved (Thames Valley in particular) there is a glut of the things, and a shortage of diesels to operate the now-not-to-be-electrified lines. It is therefore likely that older electrics will go. However, the may be scope for "retractioning" some of them, as has been done with the Vivarail project, to replace diesels from the same era (Pacers and 150s) whose oily bits are wearing out and/or were not built to last this long anyway. Whether loco haulage of dead emus, as has been proposed for the 442s, is the way forward, or it would be better to connect an underfloor generator to the unit's existing electric traction package, probably depends on a number of factors - the state of that traction package, whether suitable locos are available, whether bi-mode operation is likely, whether there is space at termini for a non-passenger carrying vehicle, etc. |
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