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Post by flippyff on Sept 11, 2015 22:45:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 11:35:52 GMT
Thought it was a stretched S Stock shell when I first saw the picture on Twitter.
What kind of timeline does a project like this take? How far down the time line does the first complete carriage roll off the line to a fully working train for testing?
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Post by A60stock on Sept 12, 2015 17:08:59 GMT
out of interest why are roundels not being installed at the tfl rail stations, unlike the overground? I would have thought this is something they would have wanted to get out the way before the major changes take place
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Post by superteacher on Sept 12, 2015 17:14:07 GMT
Thought it was a stretched S Stock shell when I first saw the picture on Twitter. What kind of timeline does a project like this take? How far down the time line does the first complete carriage roll off the line to a fully working train for testing? The first train is projected to enter service in May 2017. |
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Post by domh245 on Sept 12, 2015 17:44:45 GMT
out of interest why are roundels not being installed at the tfl rail stations, unlike the overground? I would have thought this is something they would have wanted to get out the way before the major changes take place Its all about branding and image. TfL don't want passengers on the GEML to associate crossrail with the same dingy old trains that they've been getting for the past few decades, but operationally, it made sense for AGA to relinquish the suburban services at the same time as the WA metro services. Hence TfL rail was born to take the PR flack of old unreliable trains until the new trains are ready, at which point Crossrail shall come into existence as a train operator, and the stations rebranded and done up properly. |
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 12, 2015 23:53:02 GMT
out of interest why are roundels not being installed at the tfl rail stations, unlike the overground? I would have thought this is something they would have wanted to get out the way before the major changes take place My local station (Ilford) has TFL Rail roundels. I can't wait for the new trains to be showcased to the public. I just hope that I can get to the event. My reasoning is not so much excitement at seeing the trains as what I could put in a YouTube alongside them. Simon |
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Post by superteacher on Sept 13, 2015 8:32:53 GMT
out of interest why are roundels not being installed at the tfl rail stations, unlike the overground? I would have thought this is something they would have wanted to get out the way before the major changes take place I'm assuming that you're referring to the big roundels, as all stations except Shenfield, Stratford and Liverpool Street have the temporary signs containing a very small roundel. |
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Post by Chris M on Sept 13, 2015 12:19:51 GMT
If they are using the same philosophy as for Overground takeovers, the stations don't get the full treatment, including the large roundels bearing the station name, until the station has been deep cleaned and brought up to TfL's standard. Before then they just get branded horizontal signs. Compare Stoke Newington with Enfield Town which was the "reveal" station. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 13, 2015 12:38:00 GMT
As the CrossRail branding won't be revealed until the first new cl.345 start running from Liverpool St-Shenfeild from May 2017, I would think the 'temporary' TfL Rail branding will remain until closer that date.
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Post by ashlar on Sept 13, 2015 21:24:06 GMT
If they are using the same philosophy as for Overground takeovers, the stations don't get the full treatment, including the large roundels bearing the station name, until the station has been deep cleaned and brought up to TfL's standard. Before then they just get branded horizontal signs. Compare Stoke Newington with Enfield Town which was the "reveal" station. It's been a different policy this time. Roundels and other enamel signs have been installed prior to any significant refurb and now more than half of the stations have them. |
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