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Post by ducatisti on Jun 15, 2015 12:16:46 GMT
Saw this lurking outside Neasden last week.
I noticed that the cars seemed to be a bit further apart than usual and have a more substantial coupling between them than the usual bar. Is that the case? and if so, what is the coupling between the units? are they actually further apart, and if so, why? ability to negotiate tighter curves?
Mike
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 14:10:35 GMT
The track recording coach (1973 Stock) has buckeye couplings at either end. This picture from 1987 ( www.15c.co.uk/LU_archive/0012.htm) when the coach was on test from Derby RTC shows it directly coupled to two BR coaches (a Mk1 and a Mk2). The non driving ends of the 1960 Stock DM's also have buckeyes. I am not sure of the reasons why, but they were probably fitted to allow the car to be used / hauled on BR, and as this coach is only used with the 1960 Stock DM's, perhaps there has never been a reason to remove them maybe? |
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Post by bassmike on Jun 16, 2015 10:52:24 GMT
It was to allow use on main-line duties if required.
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Post by trt on Jun 16, 2015 11:27:45 GMT
I thought this was a thread directed at me for a moment! But I'm 1968 stock.  |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jun 16, 2015 21:22:56 GMT
I thought this was a thread directed at me for a moment! But I'm 1968 stock. 1968 stock eh? Weren't you painted in an ancient colour scheme, sent out to the sticks and then finally scrapped in 1997 when your compressors went pop? |
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Post by 100andthirty on Jun 17, 2015 9:03:25 GMT
It's all obsolete now, but the original plan was that the '73ts Track Recording Car could couple to any SR type train with buckeye coupler and 27 way jumper - eg between a class 73 loco and a 4TC set. At the time there were (IIRC) only two TRCs in the country and the BR one wasn't compatible with SR vehicles. It was also intended to use the two cars to cross-calibrate each other. I'm not certain how much all of this ever came to fruition, but, I think, not much, but probably enough to make it worthwhile.
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Post by metman on Jun 17, 2015 18:15:53 GMT
I personally hope the cars equipment will be retained for the cravens heritage set. LT113s motors are rare now!
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Post by trt on Jun 18, 2015 13:40:49 GMT
I thought this was a thread directed at me for a moment! But I'm 1968 stock. 1968 stock eh? Weren't you painted in an ancient colour scheme, sent out to the sticks and then finally scrapped in 1997 when your compressors went pop? Erm... yes. Eerily enough, exactly that. And I've got a leaky mainline too. |
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Post by bassmike on Jun 18, 2015 16:48:53 GMT
Would have been nice to see it roaring down the bournemouth line.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 18, 2015 20:32:05 GMT
Would there not be issues with the height of the coupler?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 10:10:14 GMT
Would there not be issues with the height of the coupler? The couplings between the cars are at standard BR / Network Rail height. |
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Post by bassmike on Jun 19, 2015 13:49:29 GMT
comes to mind that there might have been structural problems if the TRC had been marshalled between a cl:73 and a 4TC for instance as the couplings are above frame height and would exert an uneven pull/push on the underframe.
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Post by roboverground on Jul 15, 2015 18:49:12 GMT
www.15c.co.uk/LU_archive/0012.htmrelevant to the above, nice pic. registered on TOPS as 999666 (QXA) although I always get this mixed up with 99666 a Mark 2e test car with windows plated over! some difference
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