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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 9:20:52 GMT
Hi All
Has anyone noticed that some stations now have two dispatchers on the platform? Has this just recently been introduced? What is the reason behind this?
I've seen this recently on the Met line at Liverpool Street, Finchley Road and Kings X.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 10:37:12 GMT
At Kings X it's because of the gap at both ends of the platform not sure about the others.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 19, 2015 11:29:44 GMT
On the District Line additional platform staff are provided at certain times for S7 Stock dispatch only, at:
Whitechapel EB
Tower Hill WB1
Monument EB
Mansion House WB
Embankment WB (also for D Stock)
St James's Park EB
Victoria BOTH
Sloane Square EB
South Kensington EB
Notting Hill Gate IR
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Post by marri260 on Feb 19, 2015 23:02:02 GMT
Between certain hours, it is now a requirement to have four staff on the platform dispatching trains at Finchley Road on the northbound Met. The curve isn't too bad at the rear of the platform, but is pretty severe at the north end.
The nosing stones have been relayed fairly recently, which has helped to improve the PTI. I'm won't go into details about the procedure and role of each member of staff on the platform, but each member of staff has their own specific position on the platform, along with specific role in the despatch of trains.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 13:11:15 GMT
I imagine its due to a few notices from the ORR
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Post by jetblast787 on Feb 21, 2015 19:19:24 GMT
Between certain hours, it is now a requirement to have four staff on the platform dispatching trains at Finchley Road on the northbound Met. The curve isn't too bad at the rear of the platform, but is pretty severe at the north end. The nosing stones have been relayed fairly recently, which has helped to improve the PTI. I'm won't go into details about the procedure and role of each member of staff on the platform, but each member of staff has their own specific position on the platform, along with specific role in the despatch of trains. Might also be because of the high number of suicides that occur at Finchley Road. No reason why it is such a hotspot though |
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Post by Tomcakes on Feb 22, 2015 21:18:31 GMT
Intriguing. So what happens when insufficient staff are available because Bert calls in sick/there's a crisis elsewhere on the station/another station is short so Bill is sent along to fill in etc etc? Does the station close?
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Post by Rich32 on Feb 22, 2015 23:18:34 GMT
In short the platform staffing is an absolute priority, so unlikely that the scenario would arise. However if the platform isn't staffed sufficiently then would be deemed defective and trains would have to non-stop that platform until such time that it is. AFAIK this is just during certain set times.
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Post by version3point1 on Jun 8, 2015 19:12:08 GMT
In short the platform staffing is an absolute priority, so unlikely that the scenario would arise. However if the platform isn't staffed sufficiently then would be deemed defective and trains would have to non-stop that platform until such time that it is. AFAIK this is just during certain set times. Between certain hours, it is now a requirement to have four staff on the platform dispatching trains at Finchley Road on the northbound Met. The curve isn't too bad at the rear of the platform, but is pretty severe at the north end. The nosing stones have been relayed fairly recently, which has helped to improve the PTI. I'm won't go into details about the procedure and role of each member of staff on the platform, but each member of staff has their own specific position on the platform, along with specific role in the despatch of trains. Just to prevent people on this forum from being misled – the staffing was decided through assessment in consultation with the people responsible for OPO/PTI and H&S train op reps. Assisted despatch is provided, but unless the in-cab OPO is not working, to quote a notice published by an Operational Task Manager to S8 Train Operators: "If however, a T/Op does get a full and clear view of the PTI and it is safe to do so, then they can still self-despatch."The staffing, and what happens at the times published, is an agreed arrangement that takes place. Yes – it is a requirement for the staff to be provided at the published times – but it is not an issued instruction for Train Operators to rely on assisted despatch, unless the in-cab OPO has failed at these locations (or at any other Cat A station, as per Rule Book). If, at these locations, it was a requirement for drivers to depart only with assisted despatch, there would be amendments to current Line Supplements/Rule Books/OSN published. I'll be brutally honest and say that I don't rely on them as the clue is in 'assisted despatch' - to be used when one feels they require that assistance. Only a daily basis, there are times where the staff providing assisted despatch are not consistent (or not all present), and equally, each member of staff does not have a full view of the platform – that can only communicate to each other that they have a clear view of the platform area designated to them. They don't always despatch when it's safe to do so either, like not paying attention to whether or not the station starter signal has actually cleared; and it's also worth noting that I have had, in the morning peak at Finchley Road SB, a chap with his baton raised, with a man collapsed in the doorway immediately behind him (which meant the doors were obstructed, and a Passenger Emergency Alarm followed in consequence). At no point did he realise what was going on, until he eventually started listening to the PAs being made (having already done the talkback to speak to one of the passengers, and then getting her to try and get the CSA's attention)... |
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