|
Post by pgb on Dec 13, 2014 17:42:34 GMT
Now, this is a bit on the pointless side this thread, but last week, whilst in town with some friends we happen to notice that the auto-announcer has two different ways of pronouncing "Warren Street"
On the approach to the stop she announces "War-ren Street" (with the emphasis on war as though it was a separate word) whilst on arrival we get the proper "Warren Street"
Now, does this auto-announcer actually use proper made up sentences rather than a series of words strung together by a computer i.e. "The next station is" [insert variable] rather than "The next station is Warren Street?"
Anyway, it was something we noticed and started talking about on the way back to the hotel, so any ideas on the different pronunciation anybody?
|
|
|
Post by superteacher on Dec 13, 2014 17:46:52 GMT
On the Central line, I believe that the destination sentence is recorded as a block, because "This is a Central line train to Woodford via Hainault" has a different pronunciation of Woodford when compared to the announcement "This is Woodford."
|
|
|
Post by blackhorsesteve on Dec 16, 2014 0:08:28 GMT
I'd have thought they'd just record everything unique once and then stitch all the bits together as necessary, but there definitely appears to be some duplication - sometimes the announcement says "The next station is Euston" and sometimes it's "The next station <pause> is Green Park". Any idea why it would've been done like this? It still sounds pieced together most of the time so I can't believe the voiceover lady has recorded every announcement in full.
|
|
North End
Beneath Newington Causeway
Posts: 1,769
|
Post by North End on Dec 16, 2014 4:27:24 GMT
I'd have thought they'd just record everything unique once and then stitch all the bits together as necessary, but there definitely appears to be some duplication - sometimes the announcement says "The next station is Euston" and sometimes it's "The next station <pause> is Green Park". Any idea why it would've been done like this? It still sounds pieced together most of the time so I can't believe the voiceover lady has recorded every announcement in full. I'm not sure of the exact answer to the question, however there are definitely multiple versions of the same station names, not just for "next station" and "this is", but also for when the station is being read as a destination, and also if the train is terminating. If you listen very carefully, she also says "The next station is" in at least 2 different ways. I suppose as technology has progressed, compared to older trains these trains probably have a larger storage capability. I think the messages are still assembled together in various components rather than being recorded whole, but I wouldn't swear to this.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 9:08:11 GMT
There are the service update announcements as well which do sound different.
|
|
|
Post by danwoodhouse on Dec 18, 2014 21:57:09 GMT
Now, this is a bit on the pointless side this thread, but last week, whilst in town with some friends we happen to notice that the auto-announcer has two different ways of pronouncing "Warren Street" On the approach to the stop she announces "War-ren Street" (with the emphasis on war as though it was a separate word) whilst on arrival we get the proper "Warren Street" Now, does this auto-announcer actually use proper made up sentences rather than a series of words strung together by a computer i.e. "The next station is" [insert variable] rather than "The next station is Warren Street?" Anyway, it was something we noticed and started talking about on the way back to the hotel, so any ideas on the different pronunciation anybody? you think that's bad who remembers the first auto-announcer on the C stock back in 1998? very erratic sounding that was!
|
|
class411
Operations: Normal
Posts: 2,724
|
Post by class411 on Dec 19, 2014 9:15:14 GMT
Any idea why it would've been done like this? It still sounds pieced together most of the time so I can't believe the voiceover lady has recorded every announcement in full. You have to remember that equipment on the underground can last a very long time. And that there is a considerable length of time between equipment being designed and commissioned. When digital audio recording for these announcements was first introduced computer memory was much more expensive, per byte, and it would have been sensible to use a stitching approach - something that you can easily hear they did on most stock. It's quite likely that they continued to use stitching for some time after the economic need disappeared. It has to be said, though, that, even with cost constraints, they did a very poor job. For example, there are not that many underground lines - even fewer that C Stock would run on - so they could have recorded 'This is a Hammersmith and City line train' rather than stitching together 'This is a', 'Hammersmith and City', and 'line train', with the resultant pauses. Even if memory was so tight that this was impractical they should at least have edited 'Hammersmith and City', from the speaker saying the full line, rather than from a list of lines, to avoid the resultant somewhat staccato delivery we actually hear. The same goes for the 'to Barking (or wherever)' at the end. At least all these forms of digital announcement are better than the original taped announcements used by BR which started out as beautifully enunciated, e.g. 'Bromley South' but ended up, after a year or so - with tape stretching and splicing - as 'Brooooommmm e Sth'
|
|
|
Post by uzairjubilee on Dec 19, 2014 11:47:24 GMT
Indeed. If you listen to the announcement coming up to Pimlico, the "The next station" part is quite fast compared to those of most other stations.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 13:06:17 GMT
I noticed that on the Central Line, when the train goes towards Bank, the "The next station is Bank" is quite fast compared to the other stations.
|
|
Chris M
Global Moderator
Forum Quizmaster
Always happy to receive quiz ideas and pictures by email or PM
Posts: 19,387
|
Post by Chris M on Dec 22, 2014 15:22:54 GMT
I noticed that on the Central Line, when the train goes towards Bank, the "The next station is Bank" is quite fast compared to the other stations. That might be partly subjective, as "Bank" is the only one-syllable station name served by any TfL service.
|
|
|
Post by superteacher on Dec 22, 2014 21:32:10 GMT
The same is true when it announces "this is a Central line train to Hainault via Woodford." It is spoken much quicker than any other destination - and I've heard the full repertoire on the 1992 stock!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 15:17:28 GMT
I noticed that on the Central Line, when the train goes towards Bank, the "The next station is Bank" is quite fast compared to the other stations. That might be partly subjective, as "Bank" is the only one-syllable station name served by any TfL service. Not just Bank but "The next station is" is said much quicker as well.
|
|
|
Post by bassmike on Dec 24, 2014 18:26:55 GMT
The village nearest where I live is called Warren Street. May be interesting or just f-----g boring.
|
|
|
Post by trt on Dec 24, 2014 19:04:45 GMT
Warren is just so 1970s. Might as well be Keith Street. They should update it a bit. Brooklyn Street or Brodie Avenue.
|
|
|
Post by malcolmffc on Jan 16, 2015 7:23:49 GMT
It always sounds to me like the announcements pronounce Vaxuhall as "Woxhall"
|
|
|
Post by brigham on Jan 16, 2015 12:11:32 GMT
It always sounds to me like the announcements pronounce Vaxuhall as "Woxhall" That's a Cockney-ism. "Try some winegar, Samivel".
|
|
|
Post by su31 on Jan 19, 2015 1:06:41 GMT
I noticed that on the Central Line, when the train goes towards Bank, the "The next station is Bank" is quite fast compared to the other stations. That might be partly subjective, as "Bank" is the only one-syllable station name served by any TfL service. The Bank one is a bit unique as it was patched over the previous announcement (there had been a specially inserted announcement when the W&C was closed for a long term refurb a few years ago). Another similar one is for Notting Hill Gate. The 'change here for the' 'Circle and District lines' used to be 'District and Circle lines' until about the same time as Bank's latest change. Lastly, on Emma Clarke's PA's, especially the Central line, the 'Please note that this train will not stop at the next station' actually sounds like NEX STATION as it is spoken so fast. I'm assuming there's another update on the way especially for September's Night Tube all round, and they might then add London Overground at Stratford plus the interchanges at White City and Shepherd's Bush by then!
|
|
|
Post by philthetube on Jan 19, 2015 5:21:20 GMT
Travelling south approaching Harrow on The Hill on Saturday night the auto announcer made quite a long announcement concerning engineering works in the city and on the Jubilee line, this was obviously stitched and the first time I have heard it. Maybe they will even sort something out for the last trains after the connections have gone eventually.
|
|