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Post by compsci on Feb 6, 2014 17:24:46 GMT
Another round of tours of Aldwych has just been announced by the LT Museum. These start on 5 June and run on each Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday until 29 June. Tickets are £25 and £20 concessions. Booking opens on Monday 10 February for the general public and Friday 7 February for Friends of LT Museum, who get the concession rate. At this stage I would expect the format to be identical to that from November and December 2013 - I will confirm nearer the time if I hear otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 17:37:57 GMT
Me and my wife are thinking of going again. One query though, last time we went there was strict rules on photography or what type of camera you could take in. My wife's camera is a cannon eos 600 d. It is hand held so not on a tripod but I don't think they let her use it last time. Does anyone on here work for the museum team that could clarify the rules this time on photography? Any feedback greatly appreciated, will probably still go as it's a great experience to be somewhere that a lot of people don't get to go.
Thanks
Lee
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Post by Alight on Feb 16, 2014 19:26:34 GMT
Lee, There isn't a restriction on the type of camera you can use. On one of the tours someone came with a large, old-school camera but the majority used their 'phones, as you'd expect. The style of camera is not an issue at all. Unfortunately all the tickets are sold out now so you'll have to wait 'till Autumn!
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Post by compsci on Feb 16, 2014 20:15:53 GMT
There were restrictions on camera type two years ago (I am told at the insistence of LU), but not any more. Somehow camera size was linked to probability of the user falling down the stairs or causing someone else to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 20:27:04 GMT
Thanks for replies. Yeah it was two years ago when we last went. Will have to keep an eye out for the autumn tours
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Post by stuartroy on Feb 19, 2014 18:24:44 GMT
I'm pleased to say I've got my tickets for one of the tours in June. The leaflet which came with the tickets makes it clear that tripods are not allowed (as we would expect). It also says that "no professional audio visual or audio recording equipment" is allowed. I wonder whether the rather posh camera was mistaken as one which might be used for taking photographs for professional/commercial purposes? Elsewhere in the leaflet there is reference to the fact that people on the tour might find themselves in photographs as "audience" members, which coupled with the comments on tripods seems to make it clear that photography for personal use is permitted.
I wonder whether they have ever thought about enhancing future tours by including a trip to or from Holborn? I gather the line is still in working order and is used for training and filming. Perhaps it's not passenger certified any longer? It would be rather wonderful if one could enter Aldwych, go down the stairs, and then leave by way of the shuttle to Holborn!
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Post by motorman on Feb 19, 2014 21:38:38 GMT
Could be used as a regular museum line using heritage stock providing health and safety issues not too complex to resolve.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 23:25:48 GMT
The use of DSLR and SLR cameras is permitted; I went on the Dec 2012 tour and photography was allowed. Just no tripods.
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Post by compsci on Mar 3, 2014 15:19:29 GMT
I have been informed that the museum is considering offering extra tours on the weekend of 29 May - 1 June. This is subject to sufficient volunteer staff being available. If this does go ahead it will be advertised via the museum newsletter. I would advise subscribing to this if you are after a ticket.
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Post by stuartroy on Mar 3, 2014 19:25:00 GMT
At this rate, there will soon be more people using Aldwych than used it when it was still operational!
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Post by phillw48 on Mar 3, 2014 20:50:57 GMT
At this rate, there will soon be more people using Aldwych than used it when it was still operational! If thats the case it might make making the lift operational again. At the moment those 165 steps make it impossible for yours truly to contemplate a visit.
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Post by littlebrute on Mar 4, 2014 11:12:33 GMT
Ooh, a May 31st tour would make an excellent birthday present
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 16:50:29 GMT
The LT Museum email list sent an email to me at 3.30pm this afternoon, advertising the tours on 31 May weekend, and also availability on virtually all the other tour days in June. Have just booked up! Need to go through the link in the email i think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 2:42:42 GMT
At this rate, there will soon be more people using Aldwych than used it when it was still operational! If they reopened the station- I'd use it lol!
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Post by stuartroy on Jun 27, 2014 16:41:49 GMT
Full marks to the team who made my visit yesterday afternoon so enjoyable and memorable. Security and safety was well managed, as one would expect, but never intrusive. My only slight criticism was that it would been nice to have a bit more time at platform level. Everyone was being very considerate and keeping out of each other's way for photo opportunities, but that did require a little time. I wonder whether they would consider scheduling at 1h30m, or even 1h15m, intervals next time.
Glad I went, and I hope there will indeed be "next time" to allow many more people to experience this unique bit of history.
One footnote of interest: it was explained that there are no mice or rats in this station, simply because there are no humans dropping bits of food. What mucky pups the general travelling public are!
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Post by Alight on Jun 28, 2014 22:06:03 GMT
Glad you enjoyed the tour. I agree that 1 h 15 min would make for a less rushed experience (particularly for platform 1) but to justify any longer you'd need an additional feature e.g. walking across the bridge in the middle shaft, which we currently don't do owing to time constraints.
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Post by stuartroy on Jul 7, 2014 20:47:33 GMT
I have a couple of "follow-up" questions to my visit to Aldwych a couple of weeks ago!
First, does anyone know why they built the station with platforms flanking the twin tracks, rather than having a single central platform? The latter would surely have represented a considerable saving in tunnelling and construction expenses.
And second, when the lift replacement was required, was any consideration given to driving an escalator shaft? Would this have been even more expensive than the £3m quoted for lift replacement?
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Post by Alight on Jul 7, 2014 22:43:10 GMT
First, does anyone know why they built the station with platforms flanking the twin tracks, rather than having a single central platform? The latter would surely have represented a considerable saving in tunnelling and construction expenses. The early deep level tube lines followed the same rule as sub-surface in terms of following the line of the roads above so as to reduce the need for compensation to landowners at street level. In the case of Aldwych, the over-run tunnels are under Surrey Street; the island set-up is no good for Aldwych as it would mean that the tracks would be farther apart and thus would not fit in line with the narrow Surrey Street. The same principal can be applied to St. Pauls, Chancery Lane and Notting Hill Gate stations on the Central line, though these differ in that the westbound and eastbound lay on top of one another. I haven't heard of any proposals to install escalators instead of lifts. There were various options explored at time of closure e.g. a travelator link to Temple, but all of these failed their cost:benefit analysis. I suspect the cost of replacing the lifts with escalators would have almost certainly exceeded £3m and wouldn't have been justified given the station's mere 450 return trips per day.
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Post by miff on Jul 7, 2014 22:52:32 GMT
Since an escalator shaft is inclined this option would require buying more land, at Central London prices, if the shaft would not fit within the existing station curtilage. Might be an option for a joint development if somebody already wanted to demolish the buildings next-door. Was an escalator considered at the time of the Fleet/Jubilee line planning? Or the Waterloo extension?
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Post by stuartroy on Jul 8, 2014 12:47:46 GMT
Interesting observations, thanks. I was aware of the general principle of not putting tracks under buildngs, but not how it would take effect in this case. And I suppose I was thinking of escalators against the background of the abandoned platform 2 and its overrun tunnel providing footprint space, but I agree that nothing can really be cost-effective in the context of 450 passengers a day.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 8, 2014 17:47:37 GMT
I agree that nothing can really be cost-effective in the context of 450 passengers a day. I suspect closure was cost-effective!
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