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Post by rheostar on Oct 8, 2013 15:52:15 GMT
If this consultation results in a decision have all-day stopping at Turnham Green, what are the chances that it would begin before the new signalling eliminates block lengths as a concern? I know that the upgrade is several years out, but a part of me suspects that they're trying to sort out TG's future before drawing up a lot of plans, since part-time stopping may add some complexity to the ATO. It's highly unlikely that the Piccadilly line would be stopping at TG prior to any upgrades. LU won't commit umpteen million pounds to resignal the TG area with fixed block now, only for it to be replaced in the not too distant future. It'd be a waste of money that could be spend more usefully elsewhere. Once the District finish their upgrade in a couple of years, TG will probably be getting a three minute service with the S7s. |
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Post by sawb on Jan 21, 2014 16:32:40 GMT
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Post by melikepie on Jan 21, 2014 18:20:53 GMT
Basically it says the majority who support are those in west London but trains are not going to call at Turnham Green both due to overcrowding on the Piccadilly and there is still sufficient capacity on the District Line. Nothing can also be considered properly until the resignalling in 2019.
On a side note, I completely disagree with whoever said that announcements should decrease as everyone has smart phones, even tourists for a number of reasons. 1. Not everyone has smart phones. 2. Not everyone are able to connect to the right services for a variety of reasons 3. Not everyone has time or convenience and so need to rely on the announcements, even if they have they have the first two. 4. How about those with disabilities? I'm sure there are other reasons.
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Post by domh245 on Jan 21, 2014 19:48:32 GMT
Whilst not everyone has a smartphone, I doubt that many people need to hear "there is a good service in operation in all lines, including the london overground, and DLR" every 5 minutes, even if they have some sort of disability - evidence: the thread full of people moaning about the excessive announcements. No-one needs "non-news" every couple of minutes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 22:07:27 GMT
Nothing can also be considered properly until the resignalling in 2019. On the contrary, the matter has been considered in the light of the consultation, and "TfL now plans to stop Piccadilly line trains at Turnham Green all day once the line is modernised, a new, larger fleet of trains is in place and improved signalling systems are installed." (extracted from this press release.) Previously, all TfL would commit to was another review of the business case after the upgrade. Now there is a clear policy decision. Whether it happens in 2018/19 or somewhat later depends, of course, on how quickly the SSR resignalling contract can be re-let and implemented. (Turnham Green signalling for both Piccadilly and District is part of the District/SSR scheme.) EDIT: Since it depends, apparently, on new trains, it's going to be later than 2018/19 anyway. The timescales for the upgrade are not at all clear at present. |
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Post by rheostar on Jan 31, 2014 9:54:50 GMT
Thought you might be interest to see what's on the LU intranet site -
Trains will stop once the line has been upgraded
Following feedback from more than 14,000 customers and stakeholders, Piccadilly line trains will stop at Turnham Green once the line has been upgraded.
Piccadilly line trains will stop at Turnham Green all day once the line is modernised, a new larger fleet of trains is in place and improved signalling systems are installed.
Nigel Holness, Operations Director for JNP, said: "We wanted to hear views on the Piccadilly line's service and we've been reviewing these in some detail - it's one of the largest responses we've ever had that told us a lot about customers' priorities. The Piccadilly line will stop throughout the night at Turnham Green when the Night Tube network starts in 2015."
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