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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:35:52 GMT
Am I right in thinking that there is no train numbered 21001/02 and 21003/04?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:38:06 GMT
There is, but not on the Victoria Line. These are S8 numbers.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 2, 2013 17:42:03 GMT
IIRC correctly trains one and two were the prototypes, the production sets were that far modified from the prototypes that it was actually cheaper to scrap them and build two new trains rather than retro-fit them to the production spec.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 17:53:11 GMT
Sorry I meant 11001 etc, anyway that's what I thought as well but I've just been on number 11001/02 (I've got a photo)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 18:13:45 GMT
11001/2 and 11003/4 are replacements for the original Trains 1 and 2. There are two schools of thought - they are Trains 1 and 2 or Trains 48 and 49. Take your pick I think management would like them to be known as Trains 1 and 2.
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Post by seaeagle on Jun 3, 2013 6:55:05 GMT
11001/2 and 11003/4 are replacements for the original Trains 1 and 2. There are two schools of thought - they are Trains 1 and 2 or Trains 48 and 49. Take your pick I think management would like them to be known as Trains 1 and 2. Just to confuse things even more, when the replacement 11001/2 & 11003/4 were in the process of being built and delivered, they were officially trains 48 & 49, then they became trains 1 & 2 when they entered service! Also prior to delivery, one of the trailer cars from T1/48 was damaged in a shunting mishap, so a trailer car was taken from T2/49 to keep to delivery schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 8:34:20 GMT
Indeed. My notes say -
The original build sequence of Train 48 (replacement Train 1) as laid down is 11095-12095-13095-14095+14096-13096-12096-11096 but will have Train 1 numbering. The original build sequence of Train 49 (replacement Train 2) as laid down is 11097-12097-13097-14097+14098-13098-12098-11098 but will have Train 2 numbering.
Because of the damage to car 14095 Train 48 will come down as 11095-12095-13095-14097+14096-13096-12096-11096 but numbered 11001-12001-13001-14001+14002-13002-12002-11002. Train 49 will come down as 11097-12097-13097-14095+14098-13098-12098-11098 but numbered 11003-12003-13003-14003+14004-13004-12004-11004.
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Post by londonstuff on Jun 3, 2013 10:15:35 GMT
Indeed. My notes say - The original build sequence of Train 48 (replacement Train 1) as laid down is 11095-12095-13095-14095+14096-13096-12096-11096 but will have Train 1 numbering. The original build sequence of Train 49 (replacement Train 2) as laid down is 11097-12097-13097-14097+14098-13098-12098-11098 but will have Train 2 numbering. Because of the damage to car 14095 Train 48 will come down as 11095-12095-13095-14097+14096-13096-12096-11096 but numbered 11001-12001-13001-14001+14002-13002-12002-11002. Train 49 will come down as 11097-12097-13097-14095+14098-13098-12098-11098 but numbered 11003-12003-13003-14003+14004-13004-12004-11004. How was car 14095 damaged? During prototyping work or trying to fit through the Piccadilly crossover?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 10:54:56 GMT
The new 14095 was damaged at Derby before delivery - best say no more
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Post by tubeprune on Jun 3, 2013 14:29:46 GMT
I was on 13001 today. It was very shiny!
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