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Post by ijmad on Sept 19, 2021 9:58:27 GMT
So the question remains, will they make a call later today to go into passenger service. I'm refreshing twitter with bated breath.
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Post by superteacher on Sept 19, 2021 10:20:56 GMT
So the question remains, will they make a call later today to go into passenger service. I'm refreshing twitter with bated breath. I doubt that anything will be announced until (and if) it happens.
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Post by davidb on Sept 19, 2021 10:51:47 GMT
Geoff Marshall is currently Tweeting from the southern end of the Northern Line and is reporting in the thread in the link below that at least a few stations have vinyls showing the new terminus as 'Power Station Battersea':
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Post by burkitt on Sept 19, 2021 11:18:53 GMT
So the question remains, will they make a call later today to go into passenger service. I'm refreshing twitter with bated breath. No, there will not be any public service today. First passenger train is 0528 from Battersea on Monday. (I'm writing this standing on the platform of Nine Elms station, participating in final testing)
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Post by burkitt on Sept 19, 2021 11:33:27 GMT
And having arrived at Battersea, I can confirm the test trains are running!
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Post by ijmad on Sept 19, 2021 12:04:34 GMT
Fair play if they don't, I'm purely an enthusiast guessing based on previous openings!
The sign thing is unfortunate. I suppose it may well be fixed overnight though. Can't imagine how much those line maps cost, I bet they're not cheap.
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Post by ijmad on Sept 19, 2021 14:35:10 GMT
And here's the map at Golders Green courtesy @geofftech:
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 20, 2021 6:35:49 GMT
T201 51598+51599 formed the first passenger train from Battersea Power Station at 05.28 this morning.
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Post by brigham on Sept 20, 2021 7:47:33 GMT
Either the rules have been changed to suit this one station (Kennington), or the new map is wrong. What rule out of interest? (genuine). Well, I don't know where you would find it written down, but so far when a service runs between two points on line, a continuous line of the correct colour is shown on the map between them. Clearly no longer the case where the Northern Line is concerned. Or the map is simply wrong.
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Post by burkitt on Sept 20, 2021 8:06:34 GMT
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 20, 2021 8:42:54 GMT
Well, I don't know where you would find it written down, but so far when a service runs between two points on line, a continuous line of the correct colour is shown on the map between them. . Croxley to Rickmansworth?
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Post by Alight on Sept 20, 2021 9:06:04 GMT
I was down there this morning too. There was a choir singing The Jam's 'Going Underground' and everything!
A day or so ago I posted about there being a High Barnet / MHE destination bias for the branch. I can confirm from observations this morning (and I was down there for a good while) that there were no Edgware branch destinations. It was all High Barnet with the odd MHE.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 20, 2021 10:12:08 GMT
I can confirm from observations this morning (and I was down there for a good while) that there were no Edgware branch destinations. It was all High Barnet with the odd MHE. It was mentioned up thread that there are through Edgware branch trains at certain times: M-F 05.54¾, 06.06½, 06.17¼, 16.34½GG, 17.04, 17.13¾, 17.23¾, 17.33¾, 17.43¾, 17.53¾, 18.03¾GG, 18.13¾, 18.23¾GG, 18.33¾, 18.43¾, 18.53¾, 19.03¾GG, 19.14½, 19.32¼, 19.43, 19.56, 20.02, 20.14, 20.26, 20.38, 20.50, 21.02, 21.14, 21.26, 21.38, 21.50, 22.02, 22.14, 22.26, 22 38¼, 23.14, 23.26, 23.49¼, 00.28.
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Post by davidnq2 on Sept 20, 2021 10:43:35 GMT
I can confirm from observations this morning (and I was down there for a good while) that there were no Edgware branch destinations. It was all High Barnet with the odd MHE. It was mentioned up thread that there are through Edgware branch trains at certain times: M-F 05.54¾, 06.06½, 06.17¼, 16.34½GG, 17.04, 17.13¾, 17.23¾, 17.33¾, 17.43¾, 17.53¾, 18.03¾GG, 18.13¾, 18.23¾GG, 18.33¾, 18.43¾, 18.53¾, 19.03¾GG, 19.14½, 19.32¼, 19.43, 19.56, 20.02, 20.14, 20.26, 20.38, 20.50, 21.02, 21.14, 21.26, 21.38, 21.50, 22.02, 22.14, 22.26, 22 38¼, 23.14, 23.26, 23.49¼, 00.28. Thanks for these details of the service. The new Northern Line working timetable (WTT58) has still not appeared online - the TfL site still shows TTN 224/20.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 20, 2021 11:25:50 GMT
I can confirm from observations this morning (and I was down there for a good while) that there were no Edgware branch destinations. It was all High Barnet with the odd MHE. It was mentioned up thread that there are through Edgware branch trains at certain times: I am surprised that most Battersea trains serve the Barnet/MHE branch, because if the Northern Line is ever split, the layout at Kennington and the locations of the two depots at Morden and Golders Green (on the Edgware branch) would make Battersea-Charing Cross-Edgware and Morden-Bank-High Barnet the only practical way of doing it. A Battersea-Barnet line would require a new depot. (Indeed, I assume the through Edgware trains in the WTT are in order to get trains to and from Golders Green depot)
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Post by Alight on Sept 20, 2021 11:29:06 GMT
That's helpful, thanks.
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Post by castlebar on Sept 20, 2021 12:27:11 GMT
I have a LT map called "London"
It dates from the 1960 era and shows LT, and BR lines It also shows Croxley-Rickmansworth as a Met line
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Post by selbiehouse on Sept 20, 2021 12:31:49 GMT
I wasn't so keen as to be there for the opening but did visit later in the morning.
Nine Elms has the barriers and ticket machines at street level and is quite a pleasing building:
All trains are assumed to run via Charing Cross:
The barriers and ticket machines are below street level at Battersea Power Station so on the surface it is a rather more modest building:
and finally:
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Post by rsdworker on Sept 20, 2021 13:10:56 GMT
nice so i saw on video - i counted the lifts i think total 4 lifts for public - i am not sure if its total of lifts on new extestion
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Post by Chris M on Sept 20, 2021 13:15:40 GMT
There are three public lifts at Battersea Power Station currently. Given the layout I would be surprised if there wasn't a fourth when the second entrance opens. There is a single public lift at Nine Elms.
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Post by sd826e on Sept 20, 2021 13:53:46 GMT
DVA at Battersea Power Station: "This station is Battersea Power Station. Exit here for National Rail services from Battersea Park and Queenstown Road."
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Post by North End on Sept 20, 2021 15:30:19 GMT
I wasn't so keen as to be there for the opening but did visit later in the morning. Nine Elms has the barriers and ticket machines at street level and is quite a pleasing building: All trains are assumed to run via Charing Cross: The barriers and ticket machines are below street level at Battersea Power Station so on the surface it is a rather more modest building: and finally: Personal opinion, however I can’t say I find either of the surface structures smart. To me they look rather awkward. Perhaps the inevitable over-site development will help. The colour chosen for the roofing and canopies looks okay when lit at night, but IMO awful under daylight. I tend to feel that a lot of what’s being built at the moment will in the future be looked upon like we do with 1960s stuff - cheap and drab.
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 20, 2021 17:10:19 GMT
At platform level Nine Elms station made me think of a present-era version of Gants Hill - with ooldes of concrete.
Battersea Power Station Station is much grander than most UndergrounD stations - a taste of Crossrail / Elizabeth line?
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Post by North End on Sept 20, 2021 17:13:16 GMT
It was mentioned up thread that there are through Edgware branch trains at certain times: I am surprised that most Battersea trains serve the Barnet/MHE branch, because if the Northern Line is ever split, the layout at Kennington and the locations of the two depots at Morden and Golders Green (on the Edgware branch) would make Battersea-Charing Cross-Edgware and Morden-Bank-High Barnet the only practical way of doing it. A Battersea-Barnet line would require a new depot. (Indeed, I assume the through Edgware trains in the WTT are in order to get trains to and from Golders Green depot) No idea what any official rationale was, but there is some logic to it. The Kennington via CX services tend to get stuck in a rut where if they get themselves out of turn it can be difficult to put them right. The Edgware branch isn’t great because Colindale is awkward to use for various reasons, and Golders Green loses a bit too much just to put a train in turn. But the Barnet branch only has Finchley Central as a reversing point, with many trains needing to go to Barnet for crew reliefs. On that score I’d say running Barnet trains to Battersea is preferable. The extra branch, and the reintroduction of through running to Mill Hill, means the Northern really does need to focus on chasing minor late running, as left untouched it tends to quietly build up reactionary delays quite quickly.
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Post by holborncentral on Sept 20, 2021 18:23:05 GMT
Nice! Hope you enjoyed the opening. I wish I could have flown in from 🇮🇪 for it but I had commitments at work I couldn't change. I've been retweeting pics on Twitter though
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Post by holborncentral on Sept 20, 2021 18:25:54 GMT
At platform level Nine Elms station made me think of a present-era version of Gants Hill - with ooldes of concrete. Battersea Power Station Station is much grander than most UndergrounD stations - a taste of Crossrail / Elizabeth line? From what I have seen on Twitter I thought Battersea Power Station (Station) reminded me of the Jubilee line extension a bit
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Post by Chris L on Sept 20, 2021 18:47:52 GMT
At platform level Nine Elms station made me think of a present-era version of Gants Hill - with ooldes of concrete. Battersea Power Station Station is much grander than most UndergrounD stations - a taste of Crossrail / Elizabeth line? From what I have seen on Twitter I thought Battersea Power Station (Station) reminded me of the Jubilee line extension a bit Both stations are much much better than the Jubilee line extension. (Crossrail has a different style and scale)
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Post by ijmad on Sept 20, 2021 19:00:02 GMT
I wasn't so keen as to be there for the opening but did visit later in the morning.
Nine Elms has the barriers and ticket machines at street level and is quite a pleasing building:
There's already planning permission for a 20 storey residential building to go on top of the Nine Elms entrance building, so it won't be particularly visible for long!
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Post by holborncentral on Sept 20, 2021 19:30:46 GMT
From what I have seen on Twitter I thought Battersea Power Station (Station) reminded me of the Jubilee line extension a bit Both stations are much much better than the Jubilee line extension. (Crossrail has a different style and scale) I love the Jubilee line extension, but I have to agree these stations look even better! Geoff Marshall has posted his new video on the NLE
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Post by rapidtransitman on Sept 20, 2021 19:37:56 GMT
From what I have seen on Twitter I thought Battersea Power Station (Station) reminded me of the Jubilee line extension a bit Both stations are much much better than the Jubilee line extension...) In what ways are the NLE stations much much better? Truly curious as I'm not able to visit them for a long while.
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